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1. Bobby Heenan 2. JJ Dillon 3. Jim Cornette 4. Jimmy Hart 5. Paul E Dangerously 6. Gary Hart 7. Paul Jones 8. Paul Ellering 9. Bill Alphonso 10. Paul Bearer 11. Harvey Whippleman 12. Sherri Martel 13. Lou Albano 14. Teddy Long 15. Mr. Perfect 16. Harley Race 17. Freddie Blassie 18. Slick 19. Skandor Akbar 20. General Adnan 21. Mr. Fuji 22. Col. Robert Parker 23. Vickie Guerrero 24. Johnny V 25. Ted DiBiase 26. James Mitchell 27. Dutch Mantell 28. Sunny 29. Johnny Polo 30. Sonny Onoo 31. Genius 32. Armando Estrada 33. DDP 34. Chavo Classic
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Post by thelariat32 on Mar 14, 2013 12:45:08 GMT -5
I posted this in the thread about the List-A-Mania Podcast for the manager's, but here again is my top five:
5. Tammy Fytch - You MUST see her in Smoky Mountain Wrestling to understand this pick. It has nothing to do with how hot she was, but what a great, bitchy **** she was there managing Brian Lee and Chris Candido. In that two year stretch, she was rivaling Corny. 4. Paul E. Dangerously - From Memphis to Continental, from the AWA to the NWA and later WCW and even early in the days of ECW, Paul E. was ALWAYS maniacal. 3. Bobby Heenan - What made Bobby special to me amongst all of the other classic managers was his ability to take better bumps than most of his charges. 2. Jimmy Hart - Solely based on his Memphis insanity, which is nothing short of incredible. 1. Jim Cornette - In my opinion, the best promo ever in wrestling, and his "commentary" on WTBS circa 85-86 during Midnight squashes was hysterical.
I don't want to be a Freebird! I'm the Golden Boy!!!
lariat: how much Robert Fuller have you seen from Contiental? That is a huge blind spot for me and I am anxious to watch the Studd Stable stuff. I also am unsure of how much of a wrestler/manager ratio he was doing during this time.
Also interested in your thoughts on Pringle. I am a relatively big fan of Paul Bearer but he has really been raised in my eyes with the way he is able to direct feuds vs. the Von Erichs along with a young Steve Austin.
Post by thelariat32 on Mar 14, 2013 14:54:36 GMT -5
Hey Soup. I only have two Continental tapes in my collection, and they run from the end of '87 thru the summer of '88. This was during the stretch where Eddie Gilbert was coming in as booker from Memphis (along with Paul E. who followed closely behind him), and the Stud Stable was being phased out (and moving to Memphis). Robert is all over the first tape as the leader of the Stud Stable, which featured Jimmy Golden, Dutch Mantell and Detroit Demolition (Randy Culley/Moondog Rex/Original Demolition Smash). He's not so much a manager, as he's still active in the ring (until they run a goofy angle in which he pretends to be Lord Humongous), but he certainly acts as their main mouth piece. I wouldn't look at that time as part of his managing career. I don't have any of the Memphis stuff from '88, but from what I gather, he wasn't a manager there either. The infamous angle during that stretch was Brickhouse Brown being part of the Stable, and them giving him (Brickhouse) a bunch of stereotypical "gifts" in an interview, leading to Brickhouse's babyface turn. He then was transitioned to Dallas when Jarrett bought out World Class, but he was just teaming with Golden as the Stable, and managed by Sylvia. In Smoky Mountain, it was more of the same, minus Sylvia being with them. The first I remember seeing Fuller as a true manager was in WCW in 1993 when he causes the breakup of the Hollywood Blondes, and becomes Sid's manager.
If you're interested, I can message you the match listings I have for those Continental tapes, and you can get a feel for what he was involved in there.
As far as Percy; he was funny in Florida as Jack Hart's (Barry Horowitz) manager during his massive losing streak. I have a match in which Percy gets all pissed at Jack after he loses a match that Percy had seemingly won for him. My Florida collection is very limited, though; so I can't offer much more than that for that territory. In World Class, he was Rude's manager when he won the major single's title there. This was during the point that WCCW was dropping out of the NWA, and Rude was actually the first World Class "World" Heavyweight champ. He was good at this point, but not up to the same level that Gary Hart had been in Dallas earlier in the decade. Later, he was involved as a hokey babyface in the whole Tojo Yamamoto (Memphis) vs. Eric Embry (Dallas) feud that led to the birth of the USWA (89-90). I have some of that stuff on tape (not the blowoff, though), and those tapes are some of my least favorite in my collection. If you'd like to see those tape listings, I can provide them as well; but I'll warn that I'm really harsh towards that product. Unfortunately, I've never gotten to see the early Austin stuff, so I can't comment on that at all. Would love to see it, though. Didn't he feud with his trainer, Chris Adams?
Paul Bearer was definitely Percy's best, and biggest role. He was a crucial element to the Undertaker's career, especially in those early heel days. I always thought Percy was solid, but I'd take Sir Oliver Humperdink over him in Florida, and Gary Hart over him in Dallas. Paul Bearer was too unique to compare to anyone else in the WWF, I can only say he was vital.
I was thinking the same thing with Fuller in that his Continential/Memphis stuff shouldn't really count as a manager per say even though he was more of a mouthpiece. He was still very active in 1990 for USWA and also the North Carolina indy promotion Steamboat was wrestling for.
I actually kind of dig the Py Chui Hi stuff with Percy from they dying days of World Class but will freely admit that it is really hokey.
The 1990 USWA Texas stuff of both Percy and Austin is worth tracking down. Percy started out with Embry but when he skipped out he was transitioned into the Austin vs. Adams feud. The Austin vs. Adams feud consumed most of 1990 in USWA Texas and featured a variety of different matches and stipulations and had Toni Adams and Jeannie (Lady Blossom) fighting each other. MY favorite singles match was a "come as you are" match in August between them where Austin wears football gear and Adams karate.
Post by representingfromthe8 on Mar 20, 2013 23:34:08 GMT -5
heyman too low ellering way too high what else did he do besides the road warriors and he wrestled hawk and animal were going 2 on 4 - albano too low without him the rock and wrestling never takes off and he is the manager of tag champs even with the rubber band - teddy long too high - dutch way way too low making swagger a decent threat should get him in the top 10 - sunny and no miss elizabeth either get rid of both or put none of them in there work rate as managers are the same zero in the looks dept then sunny does not hold up a roman candle to her competition because with sunny what u saw is what u got with miss eliz you could not see what you imagined you would be getting and savage is better than the conmbined talent of what sunny had to work with