Post by lifelongwwefan on Jun 9, 2013 0:00:15 GMT -5
Survivor Series returns to the Motor City for the 1st time since 1991 and one Survivor Series PPV ive always had a soft spot for. The major thing in the build to this Show was the reformation of D-Generation X and I couldn't have been more happy to see that. Another aspect that sticks out here is the Commentary throughout the night with Jim Ross & King just being gold.
My lone dissapointment was not getting the dream Main Event of Triple H/Rock/Steve Austin and Im still a litle bummed we never got it. At the time I wasn't too in tune with the Backstage stuff and didn't know why Austin was taken out. I always have wondered if he was planned to win the WWF Title that night since Triple H would go on to lose it to The Big Show. Might be a good question for Kevin Kelly next time you guys have him on.
The rest of the Show is solid and I enjoyed all the Survivor Matches. The best one IMO being Edge/Christian and the Hardy Boyz vs The Hollys and the Debuting Too Cool. Big Show dominating Big Bossman's Team was awesome and probably the way he should have been booked from the start. Chyna and Chris Jericho probably are MOTN for the IC Title,Kane & X-Pac began their Feud in a short but fun Match. New Age Outlaws keep their Tag Titles against Al Snow & Mankind and I love the line Jim Ross throws that Al Snow gave Mankind head on Smackdown the week before and King says He Did What? We also get the Debut of Kurt Angle and at the time I didn't think he would amount to much. Kurt getting on the Mic saying you do not boo an Olympic Gold Medalist instantly got him over however. I have no idea why the Womens Match made it on the Show but King's lines about Moolah & Mae Young being so old are classic. Val's Team vs Bulldog's Team was so random but the Match is ok.
Overall a pretty good PPV and it sets up an interesting end to 1999.
Post by 666thegame666 on Jun 9, 2013 2:15:35 GMT -5
Time for Surviror Series and what a shitty show it was. The openeing match is a mess and hey the Headbanbgers got a pay dday kinda amazed they are still around. Some guy named Kurt Angle debuts here and I hear he won a gold medal once. The match is well bad. All the survivor matches are bad especially that women match good god its a chore to sit through. Big Show kills a bunch of guys to set up something for later even though its short its still pretty bad. Kane and X-Pac end their alliance here as DX are heels together and its great. Poor Chris Jericho is relegated to working with Chyna and hey lets have Chyna pin Jericho cos WHY NOT. The tag division has a good match but not enough to save this show. Steve Austin is taken out by a car so he can have his neck issues tended to. So who will replace Stone Cold in what could of been the biggest Main Event in the Attitude Era well Its The God Damned Big Show. The match is crap as Show wins the title from HHH so yet another pointless HHH title run comes to an end. Overall an awful show but would lead to a great storyline for the next month.
Although there's a couple of big developments coming out of it with Kurt Angle's debut and Austin getting run down, this was a bad show that was the probaly the second worst PPV of the year after King of the Ring. I liked that there was a lot of Survivor Series matches, but all of them were pretty bad other then Edge/Chrsitian/Hardyz against Hollys and Too Cool which was just ok. It also annoyed me how most of the teams made no sense at all, with guys who were feuding at the time like the Acoylytes and the Dudley Boyz being on the same team with no explaination. I didn't get breaking up the big man little man best friend combo of Kane and X-Pac as they were really over and X-Pac was much better as a babyface then he was a heel. Jericho/Chyna was alright. It sucked that Jericho lost but I understand it as it was probaly too soon to have Chyna lose after her big win the month before. The main event was good although I didn't care for Big Show winning as he had been nowhere near built up enough for a title reign after being booked like a bumbling moron for pretty much the whole year.
Last Edit: Jun 9, 2013 14:36:37 GMT -5 by coldstone
A historic PPV with the "who ran over Austin?" angle starts and Kurt Angle debut.Angle's match is poor,but as soon as he starting cutting the promo and the crowd reacting to it,I knew then that if he gets the push,he could be something special.The way Austin gets written off is fine and give us a big cliff-hanger for when he returns. Big Show taking his place was odd,but in Kayfabe terms,it made sense as he was a piss off giant because of Bossman and his "father" dying and if Vince really thought HHH did have something to do with Austin getting run down, then why not throw him in and have him destroy HHH.Also fine with Big Show winning as it puts someone fresh in the main event scene,but really think HHH deserved a longer run.Not much elsewhere to mention,but the IC Match is fun,Jericho finally gets a chance to shine on PPV and does a good job as does Chyna,and its another fun feud involving her. Quick note on Test,3 PPVs in a row without him,which I think it strange considering he's in a somewhat big angle with Stephanie and came outta Summerslam red hot,maybe the upcoming wedding will change this.....
Post by dregenrockwell on Jun 9, 2013 14:02:04 GMT -5
The WWF returns to the old elimination match concept of the Survivor Series, with poor results.
The mid card was nowhere near strong enough to merit all the elimination matches. The whole 'Team Pimp' gag fell flat, and the European title contenders misfit team couldn't carry Roidy-Magoo Bulldog and his posse. The Big Boss Man's merry band of jobbers did well to put the Big Show over with the main event in mind. Edge, Christian and the Hardyz should never have been jobbing to a team they had far more talent than - although JR's piss-taking of Too Cool made this match fun.
Kurt Angle bursts onto the scene and attracts proper heel heat brilliantly in his match with Meat. It was the start of an incredible career - and possibly the start of Meat's obsession with recording conversations backstage.
The Womans tag match is a complete holocaust, and the entrances took about 3 times longer than the match itself. Chyna somewhat saved face for womankind by putting on an acceptable match with Y2J, although lets not kid ourselves - Jericho carried her overpushed ass.
The bait-and-switch main event was really unfortunate, but the WWF should never have continued to advertise a match they knew in advance wasn't happening. It was a good triple threat, and good for The Big Show to get the title after the 9 months of shit he had to endure. In saying that, being mired in terrible story-lines with the Big Boss Man and being turned more often than a spit-roasted pig was hardly ideal preparation for a run with the top belt.
Survivor Series 1999 was a very weird show in the Attitude Era. The opener was decent as Godfather and D'Lo win their match. We get a huge debut in Kurt Angle as he makes quick work of Stasiak, I think we'll be talking about him quite a bit. Was there ever a more bizarre team than Venis, Henry, Gangrel, and Blackman as they defeat Bulldog and the Posse. Women's Survivor match was a complete debacle, enough said. One of the Attitude Era's best teams is broken up as Kane defeats X-Pac when the reunited DX gets involved. Big Show destroys Bossman's team in a squash, but Bossman escapes unscathed. Then in what would be a seminal moment in WWF history, Steve Austin is run down by a car and is out of action. Chyna defeats Jericho in a solid match to retain the IC Title. Tag Team Survivor match is fun as the tag division is nearing its resurgence. Tag title match was ok as the Outlaws defeat Snow and Mankind. Main event time as Big Show takes Austin's place against HHH and Rock and goes on to win the title in a good match. Overall, this was perhaps one of the weakest shows in 1999 as the company was still trying to recover from the departures of Russo and Ferrara. Only one show left and the important year that was 1999 comes to an end.
Post by stevieg1980 on Jun 9, 2013 14:47:10 GMT -5
The Survivor Series matches felt rushed and meant nothing in the grand scale of things.
The world title match felt like the WWF trying to justify the signing of Paul Wight wereas they should have been doing more to justify their other major signing who had underperformed since signing and who struggled too put over Chyna. You could avoid this event and not miss anything when you go to the next.
Dull event, Triple H getting into Austin's face, leading to a car running down Austin. At the time, I thought Shawn Michaels was the one to run down Austin, since Michaels never got his revenge from Mania 14. Kurt Angle debuts and when I first saw his vignettes, I thought he would be a fan favorite, but was wrong. Patriot's music returns, and Angle truly deserved that theme. Big Show wins the big one as the WWF continues to be successful, and WCW tries to be successful with the new writers. On another note, it was after Russo & Ferrera leaving that Vince had to have writers under contract, because prior to that writers were never under contract.
My cousin was able to order this PPV and luckily Comcast (I think it was Comcast by then) didn't turn the box off until Rumble 2001. This PPV unfortunately is a bit of a letdown. I was happy for the return of the Survivor matches, but they all kind of suck. Godfather's team against the Dudley's & Acolytes was a good enough opener, but nothing memorable. Kurt Angle debuts and doesn't do much, although he does show a good way to get heat. The Val team against Bulldog match is odd as it's two heel teams, including two non-wrestlers in a bad heatless match. The women's match is quick and that's the best that can be said about it. The endless Kane/X-Pac feud starts here and seemingly goes for the next 3 years, but this match is no more than an angle to prolong the feud. Big Show dominates in another match where at least it's quick, although it does set the seeds for something later. I remember being very pissed at the Jericho/Chyna match, as myself, my cousins and 95% of the Detroit crowd was ready for a Jericho win and he drags Chyna to match of the night at this point and probably her best match ever. After this is the tag team Survivor match, which watching recently was okay, but I remember it mainly for me and my cousins having our WrestleMania 2000 for N64 draft and my cousin dancing around when he got Show and Undertaker (Armageddon). Don't remember Outlaws/Al & Mick at all, glad Mick was able to get it together for one last run and this wasn't his last match. Going into the main event me and my cousins were sure that Test would be the third guy and Triple H would somehow walk out with the belt. We were shocked and happy when Big Show came out. While it sucks we never would get Rock/Trips/Steve, Big Show carries his load here and after having to ride his dad's casket three days earlier I guess he deserved it. Overall I'd give this show a C+ as the shock ending and good main event make up for a pretty crappy undercard. On another note I'd give Dicks and Ass, the PPV me and my cousins created on WrestleMania 2000 and played on Thanksgiving a A+++. Somehow Prince Albert ended up with the World title.
I have always struggled with this event. While it has several major moments, it is also a very difficult show to actually watch. We have 5 survivor series style matches, and all of them are terrible, and we can't even blame Vince Russo anymore. Most of them have mid-card flounderers who struggle make their matches watchable, the women should not have even been on the show, and then we have a Giant push for the man who ends up pulling double duty on this Big Show
However, the other matches have some memorable moments. From the awesome debut of Kurt Angle (You do not boo an Olympic Gold Medalist), to the rise of Chris Jericho into the ICTitle division, a strong Tag Title match and a solid Kane vs X-Pac encounter , we get some entertaining moments.
Ten comes the main event. I have always hated the Bait and switch with Austin. The Internet had basically confirmed Austin would not wrestle, but he was advertised to the end, and then written out in a horrible way. Big Show comes in, but because of how he had been used until now felt out of place. The match is average, but the title change was memorable. Sadly, it really did not feel right, and was never properly capitalised on. Overall, despite the memorable moments, this show just comes across as average.
Post by stevejrogers on Jun 10, 2013 7:38:32 GMT -5
Kind of an all together meh, spinning wheels show.
Still get to see the debut proper of Kurt Angle, the continued push of Chyna, and The Big Show's first title win.
Hard not to discuss the Austin angle without bringing up future events, but at this stage it was a decent way to kayfabe Austin off camera for a while, with the potential of giving someone a massive rub.
The 1999 trend of shitting on the marquee events continues. Russo may be gone; but his legacy is felt like Pat Patterson’s skid marked undies. The Survivor Series matches prove how weak the midcard was in 1999.
Let’s breakdown one of these shit shows: Val/Henry/Gangrel/Blackman vs Bulldog/Mean Street Posse. Who was the crowd supposed to be behind? Both sides feature heels with no real history together. The Bulldog/Posse team are the bigger heels but Davey Boy Smith is booked like a baby face trying to overcome the odds. Christ, this is even confusing to write about. All the Survivor Series matches were head scratchers; this was just the worst offender.
Kurt Angle had a great debut previewing his technical/mat based style. His ability to feel the crowd’s reaction and turn himself heel was fantastic. If only Rocky Mavia did that in 1996…
Kane and X-Pac felt rushed and ended up just being used to further a story. It looked to be building toward something good and god forbid that happen tonight.
Jericho/Chyna ended up being the match of the night. Chyna brought more prestige to the I.C title than the Godfather or Goldust ever did.
Now that I’m no longer thirteen, I find the New Age Outlaws shtick to be annoying. Road Dogg with a microphone is cringe worthy. However, his in ring work is worse and they waste Al Snow/Mankind who might as well had a brawl with each other. It wouldn’t have been logical for them to have a match; but nothing on this fucking show has been logical so why not at least try to entertain a dead Detroit crowd? Fuck, I bet this audience would rather re-watch Lions/Cardinals from earlier in the day. And GUS FREROTTE started for Detriot during this stretch in 1999.
Instead of Stone Cold the fans get the Big Show, as if they haven’t been punished enough. At this time the Big Show was arguably in the worst feud in company history with the Big Bossman. Let’s remember Russo had been out of the company for two months when the Big Bossman mocked the Big Show’s dead father and pulled his casket around the cemetery. I think I’d rather be in that casket than the audience of this show. The triple threat sucks and the Big Show wins the title and cries and dedicates it to his deceased father who is in a better place; the better place being anywhere other than the Joe Louis arena.
Irv C. - back and better than ever Aah, another Survivor Series, another swerve. Some thoughts: -Can't believe Dudleys were jobbing again after just starting with the company. Well, I guess they had to pay their proverbial dues, since that always helps. -Loved Angle's theme from when he debuted, as it made him feel big time right away even if he was just beating a piece of meat. -That Venis/Henry/Gangrel/Blackamn has to be 1 of the most weird and random Survivor Series teams of all time and they fit together as well as Bulldog with the MSP. -Moolah and Mae wrestling almost as much as the other divas is beyond ridiculous -I felt like the X-Pac feud hurt Kane, as it made him out to be a dope plus I remember Kane jobbing way more than he should have been to someone like X-Pac -Big Show destroying both his team and the opposition was a good way to build him up for later that night -Jericho losing to Chyna reeked of dumb politics and should never have happened, but leads to interesting commentary by Jericho in his 2nd book -NAO still holding the titles while there were so many other younger and fresher teams was hurting the division at the time IMHO anyway -Finally, another shocker in the Survivor Series main event was actually surprising but the drive-by had to be done since SCSA needed surgery, so might as well turn Show face to change it up -Pretty entertaining PPV from what I remember as the main event scene has shifted big time