Post by sabresbuffalo on Dec 6, 2013 21:44:17 GMT -5
Technically the weakest of the 3 Meadowlands PPV's, but compared to what those 2 were, the bar was a bit high for this to approach.
Bit ironic for 2 of the main players in the opener of this arena's last PPV were out of the picture entirely- HHH with his injury, and Chyna's Sableitis derailing her faster than a Matt Millen-drafted wide receiver.
Interesting KOR semifinal matchups given the 4 guys involved here were storyline bros- good matches and loved the idea of Shane O Mac chicanery in Kurt's matchup.
Tag title match was decent. Understood the Dudleyz getting the belts 3 days ago and it really made no sense for them to drop them so soon given the Tag Team title hot potato we've undergone since Unforgiven.
Good KOR final with the storylines of Kurt going for a repeat and Shane again being the monkey wrench. And of course, it gave us the wonderful King Edge promo on RAW with the Stanley Cup-like trophy and vaccum suck/blow line.
Light heavyweight title matchup was nice and a necessary sandwich match given what was about to unfold.
Street fight was awesome- brutal bumps, Kurt's hat trick of matches, and both guys taking it to beyond. It was essentially like watching a Ravens/Steelers matchup from when both teams were loaded 5 years ago.
Triple threat match was not bad, but the Benoit injury was really unfortunate.
All in all, nice show- but it lacked the hot crowd of 1989 or that "We're on the way up" feel of 1997. By this time, they were essentially the only game in town.
Had to bring this up, but by how much percentage would a healthy Benoit/HHH have made the ensuing 5 months or so?
Post by jollymanbigboy on Dec 6, 2013 23:06:53 GMT -5
I remembered how phenomenal Raw and Smackdown had been match quality wise leading up to the show including Benoit-Austin, TLC III, Angle-Benoit, and the famous tag team title match. So going in I had high expectations based on match quality. And what I got was ok.
Of course Shane-Angle or better yet Kurt Angle himself stole the show. Shane landing on his head before going through glass, Kurt cutting his arm, Kurt breaking his tailbone and the great spot off the top rope to end the match. Easily match of the night though their feud was kinda lame. Shane interrupts Kurt's medal ceremony in an awkward promo and interferes in all of Kurt's matches for the rest of the month, nothing interesting I remember.
I was excited. A 28 minute triple threat match involving three of my favorite competitors. And when I started the match, I was getting wrestlemania 25 main event flashbacks. I don't hate it like that match but I thought a. it was way too long, b. never picked up with the crowd, c. it wasn't booked interestingly, it was one guy goes outside two in the ring, that's how it felt, d. the match or the story never felt like it picked up like it was constantly stuck in the beginning phase of the match where everything was setup without escalating to that second gear, and e. I didn't recognize it at the time, but the video package was way too focused on Austin-McMahon that Benoit and Jericho were just afterthoughts pretty much nailing it down that they weren't going to win.
The match is remembered for being Benoit's last match and Booker T's debut. I'm confused did Benoit injure himself during this match and the match got cut short, because they had been building a story that Vince was going to show up and the match ends w/ Benoit hurt from his own offensive move...OR...I heard he injured himself at the TLC match and continued to compete until the scheduled triple threat match and he aggravated his injury or they planned for Benoit to lay himself out to have Austin win on luck?
I say keep the main event a fast, intense 18-22 minutes and devote time to an actual match for DDP-Taker not that it would've been any better than what we got or so I think.
As far as the tournament goes, it was strange because the matches had to be booked so close together. It felt like the three matches were forced to be short, though a vast improvement over the past two years. I feel like you can put on a competitive match somewhere in this tournament with more time taken away from the main event and put here, though you didn't want to fatigue Angle too much. Also Shane screwing Kurt may have upstaged Edge's King of the Ring victory.
Overall the show is okay. Better than Backlash or Judgment Day? I don't know. Maybe Judgment Day, but I think Backlash was more consistent.
Feed backs back, and so is the Thunder from Down Under. Not a bad show, but for some reason, I never felt it was great. We return to just the semis for the tourney, with the breakdown of a long standing alliance. Angle beats Christian and Edge beats Rhyno. I thought it was cool having 4 guys with a known connection in he semis, and Angle defending his title was great. The Dudley's have the belts back, and defend against Spike and Kane. I guess they just wanted Kane on the show. Jeff Hardy relieves X-PAC of the light heavyweight belt, as Jeff continues to grow in the ring. A decent match, although X-PAC looks done. Edge takes his next step up e ladder, claiming the kingship from Kurt, who hen goes back out and faces Shane O mac in a great match. Kurt really shows he has upped his game in 12 months, and stole he show with 3 great performances. This, I think, was what showed he was ready to be one of the top men. Taker just craps all over a night long angle with DDP, and totally destroys him, ruining any chance of a future match happening. Why do this angle is they just have taker destroy him? Seemed a waste of writing and time. Poor DDP. He looked out of place as the stalker, but deserved better than the treatment that he got. Finally Benoit and Jericho step up against Austin, but sadly the match is only ok. The focus was too much on Austin/Vince and WCW. Also, Unfortunately for Benoit and Jericho, we get the Booker t interference and mishap, which leads to another Austin injury. It just felt forced for Booker to get involved. it is also Benoits last match for a while, as injury stops his rise to the top for a while. Overall, enjoyable with some good in ring stuff, especially from Kurt, but some poor writing and booking decisions, especially relating to the undertaker.
Post by 666thegame666 on Dec 7, 2013 7:35:08 GMT -5
Good KOTR better than the last two years in terms of quality as a PPV show. One of the better in terms of actual KOTR matches on the PPV. Angle and Christian have a nice little openner with Angle getting the win. Edge and Rhyno have a nice match also to set up a Angle/Edge final. I always found it odd Edge won just because he had always been postioned as a tag guy and winning KOTR meant they had big plans for you in the long run. The Angle/Edge match is just ok could of been better. I guess the thing this show is remebered for is the Angle/McMahon street fight. Now don't get me wrong it is a very good match but I think over a decade later its a later overrated by a lot of fans but im not taking away anything from Angle who wrestled 3 matches on this show and Shane especially after taking that bump through the plate glass. The main event is really solid. I am not a fan of the heel Austin gimmick especially at this point hes just a whinny SOB which I guess was the only way to get him heat as a heel but I find it hard to watch him during 2001 terms of his character but in the ring hes at his best since the piledriver from Owen back in 1997 which seems like a lifetime ago even in 2001. Benoit and Jericho are both great. Booker T debuting I never saw as a big deal maybe because I was not paying attention to WCW in its dying days but I just never his debut as this huge thing I mean its not like Hogan or Goldberg came in and take out the biggest WWF star but just Booker T who was pretty much a mid card act until the end when they gave him a bunch of meaningless world title reigns. Oh yeah I guess I should talk about DDP and the fucking awful shit he got unlike Booker DDP seemed like a bigger deal coming in and they fuck that up with the awful stalker angle with Taker and his wife. Overall a good show in the ring but just done in the middle of a really awful period of WWF television I guess its a good thing there was no feedback for Backlash and Judgment Day because I don't have nice things to say about the product of that time.
1. Kurt Angle def Christian *** 2. Edge def Rhyno **½ 3. Dudleyz def Spike and Kane **¼ 4. Edge def Kurt Angle *** 5. Jeff Hardy def X-Pac **¼ 6. Kurt Angle def Shane McMahon **** 7. Steve Austin def Chris Benoit and Chris Jericho ***¾
While not a great PPV by any stretch of the imagination, KOTR 2001 will always hold a special place in my heart for the simple reason that it was the first PPV I attended live. I'd been to lots of RAWs at MSG and the Meadowlands, but this was the first time I was able to make a big PPV event. Great seats in the front row of the first elevated section off the floor, we were seated diagonally behind the announce table so we had a great view of Booker T making his big splash debut.
Angle and Shane's street fight was such an awesome brawl, I didn't mind getting stuck with one of those matches where the action goes everywhere so the live audience doesn't really get to see what's going on. Watching the glass panels refuse to break, I remember thinking "how many times are they going to try before just giving up?" Of course when the panel shattered, the crowd popped big time. I have to say, however, I'm kinda surprised that Angle didn't repeat as King because, up until that point, Angle had been making a career out of doing exactly what he said he was going to do. From winning the European title, to being a double "Euro-Continental" champion, to winning the WWF Championship, it seemed that everything Angle said he was going to do, he did, no matter how impossible it seemed. This was one of the first times he failed in his stated goal.
I was thrilled when Sara's stalker was revealed to be DDP. That moment on RAW remains one of my favorite RAW moments, to this day, but watching DDP and 'Taker "fight" at this event made it pretty clear from the get-go that DDP was going to be nothing more than Undertaker's doormat. Overall, this was more disheartening than anything because Page was one of the few WCW guys I really liked and was hoping would succeed in his new surroundings.
Overall I had a great time at the show. I got to see almost all the big names I liked - Austin, Jericho, 'Taker, Kane, Angle. A great brawl, some exciting matches, a huge debut, and X-Pac lost. All the things I look for in a show.
Last Edit: Dec 7, 2013 9:47:48 GMT -5 by Bill Richy
Post by dregenrockwell on Dec 7, 2013 20:45:02 GMT -5
A vast improvement on the last 2 KOTR PPVs.
The tournament itself was reduced to just the semis and the final, and the event benefitted from it. Team ECK and Rhyno were a great choice for the final 4, and Edge deserved the rub from winning the hilariously oversized trophy.
Obviously, Kurt v Shane's brutal brawl is the pick of the undercard, with Shane taking some ridiculous bumps through glass, and almost cracking his skull open on the hard glass. The finishing Olympic Slam was fantastic. The rest of the undercard would have been completely forgettable if it wasn't for Dvon forgetting to break up an pinfall in the tag title match, making for a very awkward moment. DDP was unfortunately made out to look like a chump by the Fat Phenom. Get used to it, Page.
The main event was a very good triple threat, but it failed to elevate Benoit and Jericho to the level they'd have wanted. Booker T's run in was exciting, but the finish was an incredibly weak anti-climax, even though it later became obvious that this was to explain Benoit's injury.
However, Booker's run-in was a sign that an invasion was coming.
Post by lifelongwwefan on Dec 8, 2013 2:14:38 GMT -5
King Of The Ring from the Meadowlands and the official kickoff of the WCW Invasion. A pretty solid PPV overall and one of my favorite Shows in 2001.
The Final 4 of the KOTR Tournament of Team ECK and Rhyno was a good way to culiminate things. Both Semi-Final Matches are good as is the Finals between Edge & Kurt Angle with Edge kicking off the Era of Awesomeness. I also liked Shane Mcmahon extending Kurt Angle another bout for their Street Fight later.
The Dudleyz retain their newly won Tag Titles against Kane & Brother Spike in a decent Tag.
Jeff Hardy & X-Pac have a pretty good Match for the Light Heavyweight Title.
I thought it was awesome having DDP come in as one of the first major WCW Names on the Monday before in Tampa. I really think he should have gotten one over on Undertaker in their brawl here and maybe set up a one on one Match the next month instead of being in the Main Event.
Kurt Angle & Shane O Mac tear the house down in the Street Fight. Shane going through the glass was a scary but also an awesome bump at the same time. The finish is great with Angle hitting the Angle Slam off the board from the top for the win.
The Triple Threat is very good and I also liked the added cavioate of if Jericho or Benoit won they would jump to WCW with the WWF Title the next night in MSG. We also see the debut of the WCW Champion himself Booker T and putting Austin through the Announce Table but injures Stone Cold at the same time. Chris Benoit also has his last Match for awhile here and puts another big name on the injured list.